On the 54th Collings & Herrin Podcast, one of us is caffeine-free, the other is virtually insensible on the stuff. Ethical and moral discussion moves almost imperceptibly from Prince Charles’s detox tincture to the quality of placard at the Luton anti-war protests; from monkey vengeance to sheepdog love; from Horden to Corden; from the wheelie bin police to reincarnation as a bee; from just about anything to Richard’s tour dates. I remain in a Zen-like stated of decaffeinated calm throughout. In the picture you can see Richard eating his pathetic fish fingers and me tucking into a superb spicy seafood, bacon and asparagus bake, which I brought in a Tupperware tub and decanted onto a plate Richard kindly gave me.

Incidentally, despite the deluge of well-intentioned technical advice two weeks ago, we still can’t make the podcast studio work in the USB port of my laptop. I think we need to go to the next level of advice, whatever that is. Help!


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