Celebrity privileges revoked

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Coming back from an overnight trip to Northampton (speaking engagement at the Kettering Rotary Club, if you must know), I saw two stories on the newsstand at the station that seem linked. The Daily Star had the exclusive on Big Brother’s Chanelle “bottled” by stalker, and Heat (the publication that more than any other keeps the careers of BB winners and losers articificially alive) leads this week with Big Brother’s Charley attacked outside club by member of public. So – is this a case of the Great British Public turning on the “celebrities” it helped create? (And the unnamed attackers must take full responsibility, as anyone who couldn’t give a fuck about BB‘s latest wave of would-be glamour models is unlikely to go out of their way to mount an assault on any of them. If you’re really lucky, and avert your eyes from the covers of Heat and Nuts on newsstands, as I am unable to, you might not even recognise Charley or Chanelle, which would be the ultiimate insult to the pair of them.)

The facts, as I have gathered them from the Internet are (and this is a culturally interesting trend, so read on even if you despise): “a crazed stalker tried to maim Big Brother beauty Chanelle Hayes in a terrifying nightclub attack. The shocked star could have lost an eye as the demented woman hurled a beer bottle at the babe who was standing on the stage.” In other words, she didn’t bottle her with a broken bottle, as suggested by the headline, and, in fact, she didn’t hit her with one either. The whole story hinges on what might have happened, had the headline been true. Chanelle ducked and was rushed off stage at Jumpin’ Jaks nightclub in Halifax, by bodyguards. A nasty enough experience for the hapless nude model, and I wouldn’t wish it on her, but at the same time, you can’t prostitue yourself across national TV, then OK! and all the others, for weeks on end, with your fake boyfriend Ziggy, pocketing huge sums of cash along the way, and not expect the odd strange fan. This stalker is clearly a bit cracked, as I believe she fancies Ziggy, and Chanelle now has round-the-clock security, which I hope she can pay for. The stalker is described as “a short, stocky girl with greasy, mousy brown hair.” Note: greasy and stocky. Implication: what a loser, eh? A member of Chanelle’s “team” added, “She was very cheap and chav looking.” (Pretty easy to spot at Jumpin’ Jaks then, I’d guess.) What a wonderful world these people inhabit.

Meanwhile, deluded Big Brother loudmouth Charley Uchea got into a “violent catfight outside London’s Embassy Club” at 3am the other morning, her fake hair “viciously pulled by a mystery brunette in a pink dress.” Charley apparently “sank to the pavement looking terrified.” Having quietly watched some of BB this year, breaking my own boycott for reasons of cultural fact-finding, I find it hard to believe that Charley would be terrified of anything, except perhaps not being noticed. We need not feel too sorry for her, in which case. Charley, 22, recently revealed, “When I go shopping, it takes four hours because everyone mobs me. I’ve got an entourage bigger than J-Lo.” Yes, and if your ambition is to have an “entourage”, well done. They’ll certainly be there for you when Heat no longer consider you newsworthy.

I know I don’t usually trouble myself with silly gossip like this (although it’s still more newsworthy than a survey about flatpack furniture), but I wonder if there’s something in the air. Are we finally sick of these idiots? And if so, wouldn’t it save a lot of trouble if we just stopped adding to C4’s phone/text-vote coffers and stopped buying the magazines with their needy faces on – that would soon bring the whole sorry edifice crumbling down. (By the way, I didn’t blog about BB when I was secretly watching it, as the last time I tried to commentate upon the programme sensibly, it drew unsavoury types who must have happened upon my website while searching for BB-related material, and I have no interest in getting into a dialogue with them. If the same happens here, I’ll just jettison the post. As you were.)

48 thoughts on “Celebrity privileges revoked

  1. Don’t know, or care, who any of these people are – which probably makes me some kind of cultural pariah in 21st century Britain.I’d love to think these ‘attacks’ were an indication of the British public turning on fake celebs (or real ones for that matter) but I fear it’s just 2 sides of the same coin.Is it not more likely that the people doing the ‘attacking’ are just as obsessed with the world of celebrity as their victims – hence picking on them in the first place?On a similar theme I notice poor Lewis Hamilton is having to flee to Switzerland to avoid having to sign a few autographs when he fills up at the petrol station. Poor love. And only a multi-million pound contract and an endless round of self-promotion to compensate him.Now I’m going to move on to very unsafe territory. Would I be right in thinking that most celeb-led magazines enjoy a disproportionately high female readership? Why is this? My wife – an intelligent, saintly and discerning woman whose only previous character flaw has been putting up with me for several years – laps this stuff up.If ever I needed to send an anonymous post this is probably the time but I’m going to be brave…

  2. Don’t know, or care, who any of these people are – which probably makes me some kind of cultural pariah in 21st century Britain.I’d love to think these ‘attacks’ were an indication of the British public turning on fake celebs (or real ones for that matter) but I fear it’s just 2 sides of the same coin.Is it not more likely that the people doing the ‘attacking’ are just as obsessed with the world of celebrity as their victims – hence picking on them in the first place?On a similar theme I notice poor Lewis Hamilton is having to flee to Switzerland to avoid having to sign a few autographs when he fills up at the petrol station. Poor love. And only a multi-million pound contract and an endless round of self-promotion to compensate him.Now I’m going to move on to very unsafe territory. Would I be right in thinking that most celeb-led magazines enjoy a disproportionately high female readership? Why is this? My wife – an intelligent, saintly and discerning woman whose only previous character flaw has been putting up with me for several years – laps this stuff up.If ever I needed to send an anonymous post this is probably the time but I’m going to be brave…

  3. I thought the interesting thing about BB this year was how much more media aware the contestants were allowed to be shown to be. Ok, they may not have been the sharpest tools in the box, but they were aware of the very specific motives why they were there.Previously, BB was filmed to make it appear like nobody had any agenda apart from just being on Big Brother, good on ’em and all that let the plucky one win my mate fancies the blonde one etcHowever, to now film people from day one talking about their agents and how much they expect to be a model and/or popstar when they leave the house, the only response generally is a rather handbaggy ooooooh, get you – what do you think makes you so special?

  4. I thought the interesting thing about BB this year was how much more media aware the contestants were allowed to be shown to be. Ok, they may not have been the sharpest tools in the box, but they were aware of the very specific motives why they were there.Previously, BB was filmed to make it appear like nobody had any agenda apart from just being on Big Brother, good on ’em and all that let the plucky one win my mate fancies the blonde one etcHowever, to now film people from day one talking about their agents and how much they expect to be a model and/or popstar when they leave the house, the only response generally is a rather handbaggy ooooooh, get you – what do you think makes you so special?

  5. Having only watched the first ever series, and this one (I grew weary of it the year Bubble turned up, and have since boycotted it, very publicly, just to show off), I can’t really compare. But I read elsewhere that this was the first year the housemates’ venal media-awareness was played out centre stage. (I do remember the live feed being cut off if they mentioned “the programme” in the olden days.) Are these the final days then? Celebrity Big Brother has already been taken off the slate for the new year. Thin end of the wedge, or simply overreaction to Racistgate?

  6. Having only watched the first ever series, and this one (I grew weary of it the year Bubble turned up, and have since boycotted it, very publicly, just to show off), I can’t really compare. But I read elsewhere that this was the first year the housemates’ venal media-awareness was played out centre stage. (I do remember the live feed being cut off if they mentioned “the programme” in the olden days.) Are these the final days then? Celebrity Big Brother has already been taken off the slate for the new year. Thin end of the wedge, or simply overreaction to Racistgate?

  7. I think the woman who attacked Charley may have done it in order to get her own fifteen minutes of fame. It’s really come to this – attacking minor celebrities to get yourself in the papers. Mind you, it couldn’t have happened to a nicer girl…

  8. I think the woman who attacked Charley may have done it in order to get her own fifteen minutes of fame. It’s really come to this – attacking minor celebrities to get yourself in the papers. Mind you, it couldn’t have happened to a nicer girl…

  9. Steve Lake – “My wife – an intelligent, saintly and discerning woman whose only previous character flaw has been putting up with me for several years – laps this stuff up.”I was going to post exactly the same thing (well maybe without the ‘saintly’ bit ;-))I just don’t get it – she watches the tv equivalent of this shite to. Why?? When any sensible and well-balanced person (i.e., me) can see that without them these appalling people wouldn’t exist.And another thing – most women (and probably blokes too) have some kind of problems with self-image etc. Yet these mags reinforce this very problem by featuring “gorgeous” celebs on one page (probably air-brushed or similarly enhanced), while showing the rough looking ‘pics they didn’t want you to see’ on the next, with various assorted ads for make-up and plastic surgery in between.Oh and I do wish these people ill. Sorry. Shame the bottle didn’t hit her in the face.

  10. Steve Lake – “My wife – an intelligent, saintly and discerning woman whose only previous character flaw has been putting up with me for several years – laps this stuff up.”I was going to post exactly the same thing (well maybe without the ‘saintly’ bit ;-))I just don’t get it – she watches the tv equivalent of this shite to. Why?? When any sensible and well-balanced person (i.e., me) can see that without them these appalling people wouldn’t exist.And another thing – most women (and probably blokes too) have some kind of problems with self-image etc. Yet these mags reinforce this very problem by featuring “gorgeous” celebs on one page (probably air-brushed or similarly enhanced), while showing the rough looking ‘pics they didn’t want you to see’ on the next, with various assorted ads for make-up and plastic surgery in between.Oh and I do wish these people ill. Sorry. Shame the bottle didn’t hit her in the face.

  11. This may sound sexist, but…I work in an office full of women. If I didn’t watch this rubbish I would feel left out in all conversations.This may not sound sexist, but…That Daily Star website is most depressing thing I’ve ever seen.”MADDIE: SHE’S ALIVE””BIG BROTHER TWINS IN KINKY SEX SHOCKER””MADDIE: ITS THE PARENTS WHAT DONE IT, SAYS POLICEMAN””BIG BROTHER CHARLIE IN ATTACK””MADDIE: HAVE YOU SEEN HER””BIG BROTHER BABE CHANELLE BOTTLED””MADDIE: AFFLECK PULLS FILM””BIG BROTHER CHANELLE INTO S&M””MADDIE: WHERE IS SHE? – YOU DECIDE!”Ok, the last one was made up. Where’s the actual news?What’s the deal with all the half naked women on there? Even the most laddish of men must lose interest in that.That is all.

  12. This may sound sexist, but…I work in an office full of women. If I didn’t watch this rubbish I would feel left out in all conversations.This may not sound sexist, but…That Daily Star website is most depressing thing I’ve ever seen.”MADDIE: SHE’S ALIVE””BIG BROTHER TWINS IN KINKY SEX SHOCKER””MADDIE: ITS THE PARENTS WHAT DONE IT, SAYS POLICEMAN””BIG BROTHER CHARLIE IN ATTACK””MADDIE: HAVE YOU SEEN HER””BIG BROTHER BABE CHANELLE BOTTLED””MADDIE: AFFLECK PULLS FILM””BIG BROTHER CHANELLE INTO S&M””MADDIE: WHERE IS SHE? – YOU DECIDE!”Ok, the last one was made up. Where’s the actual news?What’s the deal with all the half naked women on there? Even the most laddish of men must lose interest in that.That is all.

  13. How exciting – does that mean somebody will attack the person who attacked Charley to get their fifteen minutes too ? Or does the minutage get subdivided into smaller portions depending on the pecking order ?” In the future everyone will be world-famous for 15 minutes. However, due to time restraints please be aware that minutes can go up as well as down. “

  14. How exciting – does that mean somebody will attack the person who attacked Charley to get their fifteen minutes too ? Or does the minutage get subdivided into smaller portions depending on the pecking order ?” In the future everyone will be world-famous for 15 minutes. However, due to time restraints please be aware that minutes can go up as well as down. “

  15. Every year, BB has to outdo the previous year’s shambles, to generate the kind of publicity essential to the show and the finance it generates for C4. And so the bar has been progressively lowered every year, in the selection of unbalanced and desperate contestants and the degradation they are expected to endure. I’m afraid this is the end result, as hapless tabloid created nano-celebrities are foisted on the public, some of whom are in the same deluded and desperate mindset as the contestants. That it is symbolised by a brawl in the gutter is surely appropriate. How can they drag the show lower? No doubt they will find a way. I just hope nobody watches it.

  16. Every year, BB has to outdo the previous year’s shambles, to generate the kind of publicity essential to the show and the finance it generates for C4. And so the bar has been progressively lowered every year, in the selection of unbalanced and desperate contestants and the degradation they are expected to endure. I’m afraid this is the end result, as hapless tabloid created nano-celebrities are foisted on the public, some of whom are in the same deluded and desperate mindset as the contestants. That it is symbolised by a brawl in the gutter is surely appropriate. How can they drag the show lower? No doubt they will find a way. I just hope nobody watches it.

  17. I hope you are right Andrew, and that we the public are strong enough to avoid the celebrity/lads mags and tabloids that give ex BB types the oxygen they so obviously crave.I must admit to faltering at times and spending my hard earned money on publications showing Chanelle and the like in a state of undress. However, I always feel dirty afterwards, so that is a start.

  18. I hope you are right Andrew, and that we the public are strong enough to avoid the celebrity/lads mags and tabloids that give ex BB types the oxygen they so obviously crave.I must admit to faltering at times and spending my hard earned money on publications showing Chanelle and the like in a state of undress. However, I always feel dirty afterwards, so that is a start.

  19. Steve, just a comment about Lewis Hamilton moving to Switzerland to ‘avoid the attentions of the media’. I should imagine the attentions of the Inland Revenue play a slightly larger factor.Incidentally, I wonder just how many other ‘terrifying nightclub attacks’ there were across the country over the same weekend?

  20. Steve, just a comment about Lewis Hamilton moving to Switzerland to ‘avoid the attentions of the media’. I should imagine the attentions of the Inland Revenue play a slightly larger factor.Incidentally, I wonder just how many other ‘terrifying nightclub attacks’ there were across the country over the same weekend?

  21. I think the fact that both have agents and the series finished a while back and, um, coincidence probably accounts for these two stories. I’m sure BB contestants have been having bottles thrown at them in clubs since series one.I stopped defending (and watching) BB after the fakery reached ridiculous levels in series seven. (TV? Fakery? Who’d have thunk it?) I still believe it’s a fantastic idea for a TV show though. Aren’t they doing some kind of halfway house celebrity/non-celebrity show in the New Year? I may have heard wrong.Incidentally having seen one or two game shows recently it’s becoming clear to me that the selection process for pretty much all shows involving members of the public is becoming more and more biased towards freaks (or should that be the differently normal?). And if they keep raising the bar, there are always going to be those auditioning who are prepared to jump.

  22. I think the fact that both have agents and the series finished a while back and, um, coincidence probably accounts for these two stories. I’m sure BB contestants have been having bottles thrown at them in clubs since series one.I stopped defending (and watching) BB after the fakery reached ridiculous levels in series seven. (TV? Fakery? Who’d have thunk it?) I still believe it’s a fantastic idea for a TV show though. Aren’t they doing some kind of halfway house celebrity/non-celebrity show in the New Year? I may have heard wrong.Incidentally having seen one or two game shows recently it’s becoming clear to me that the selection process for pretty much all shows involving members of the public is becoming more and more biased towards freaks (or should that be the differently normal?). And if they keep raising the bar, there are always going to be those auditioning who are prepared to jump.

  23. I am a woman and I have never watched it. I DO NOT CARE. Neither do I read ‘those’ magazines.(Somehow, I felt compelled to get that off my chest. Feel better now.)Also – What Jason said about Lewis Hamilton/Switzerland. I heard him on the Today programme, being the very definition of disingenuous; made me glad I’ve not had the chance to vote in the Sports Personality of the Year yet.

  24. I am a woman and I have never watched it. I DO NOT CARE. Neither do I read ‘those’ magazines.(Somehow, I felt compelled to get that off my chest. Feel better now.)Also – What Jason said about Lewis Hamilton/Switzerland. I heard him on the Today programme, being the very definition of disingenuous; made me glad I’ve not had the chance to vote in the Sports Personality of the Year yet.

  25. I think I stopped watching it when I realised I had been doing so almost exclusively to aggravate other people. It is incredible how, without any provocation, people can get cross that you actually like it and refuse to admit it it is the downfall of Western civilisation.Not watching it this year gave me the opportunity to test the theory people who hate it often throw out. ‘I wouldn’t mind it but it is everywhere ! You can’t avoid it !’ I discovered what utter bullshit this is. If you are indifferent to it and don’t rely on the Star for your daily paper it is easily avoided.I have to say I always comforted myself during the time I did watch it (which is every series up to this years) that I only ever consumed it as a tv show and never brought in to the OK and Heat stories post BB. They ceased being interesting to me the second they left the house.I agree that the attacking of the BB people is further evidence of the pursuit of fame and not the natives revolting.

  26. I think I stopped watching it when I realised I had been doing so almost exclusively to aggravate other people. It is incredible how, without any provocation, people can get cross that you actually like it and refuse to admit it it is the downfall of Western civilisation.Not watching it this year gave me the opportunity to test the theory people who hate it often throw out. ‘I wouldn’t mind it but it is everywhere ! You can’t avoid it !’ I discovered what utter bullshit this is. If you are indifferent to it and don’t rely on the Star for your daily paper it is easily avoided.I have to say I always comforted myself during the time I did watch it (which is every series up to this years) that I only ever consumed it as a tv show and never brought in to the OK and Heat stories post BB. They ceased being interesting to me the second they left the house.I agree that the attacking of the BB people is further evidence of the pursuit of fame and not the natives revolting.

  27. “I know I don’t usually trouble myself with silly gossip like this (although it’s still more newsworthy than a survey about flatpack furniture)”Given the choice between an evening with either of the “celebrities” mentioned or an evening assembling flatpack furniture than I know what I’d choose. Where’s my allan key?

  28. “I know I don’t usually trouble myself with silly gossip like this (although it’s still more newsworthy than a survey about flatpack furniture)”Given the choice between an evening with either of the “celebrities” mentioned or an evening assembling flatpack furniture than I know what I’d choose. Where’s my allan key?

  29. hamilton will being it for tax reasons — whatever he says.i dont watch any programme where it’s funded by phone voting or txt ing in.that includes strictly, x-factor, bb, eurovision — they’re all shit.

  30. hamilton will being it for tax reasons — whatever he says.i dont watch any programme where it’s funded by phone voting or txt ing in.that includes strictly, x-factor, bb, eurovision — they’re all shit.

  31. Each time someone writes “flatpack furniture” I read it as “flapjack furniture”. I wonder if I could get some funding on Dragons Den to develop this invention?

  32. Each time someone writes “flatpack furniture” I read it as “flapjack furniture”. I wonder if I could get some funding on Dragons Den to develop this invention?

  33. In the old days it was said that Diana’s face on a magazine would automatically increase sales but now it is Jade, Posh Big Brother types and other females I have never heard of.To me this is the saddest thing – the fact that some people (ok, women) think that these people are interesting enough to buy a magazine to read about them.AnonoNick

  34. In the old days it was said that Diana’s face on a magazine would automatically increase sales but now it is Jade, Posh Big Brother types and other females I have never heard of.To me this is the saddest thing – the fact that some people (ok, women) think that these people are interesting enough to buy a magazine to read about them.AnonoNick

  35. I believe that there is an overwhelming sense of schadenfreude driving the demand for these magazines and the story content which proliferate the press these days. Ask yourself this question next time you go to buy one of these ‘periodicals’, why the hell am I paying good money for this, and setting aside a chunk of my life to absorb it? Is it to lap those stories up about how well someone is doing, or what a beautiful nose job they’ve awarded themselves with, or am I getting off on ‘look at the state of (insert whichever celebrity/z lister you want here), it can’t get much worse for them’. Are you then comparing your life to theirs ie. I don’t have much, but money/plastic surgery/footballer husband hasn’t made her happy so she’s not much worse off than me after all? Is this what we now do for a confidence boost – when did our self esteem really hit so low that we need to constantly buy this trash to make us feel better?Please tell me if I’ve got it wrong; I’d love to know the real reason why so many of these dreadful rags shift per week. And it’s not just one or two, there’s tons of them, each catering for your particular celebrity fetish – drugs, sex, booze, adultery – you name it.I just want to go and pick up my copy of the People’s Friend in peace, not have the collective bosoms and woes of Jade/Kerry/various BB ‘babes’ thrust at me. Excuse the rant, but having read Andrew’s post, plus seeing Heather Mills doing a very good job of ‘setting the record straight about the media and the ‘filthy lies they’ve written about me’ on the GMTV sofa this morning, I’m left wondering, not for the first time, WTF is going on.

  36. I believe that there is an overwhelming sense of schadenfreude driving the demand for these magazines and the story content which proliferate the press these days. Ask yourself this question next time you go to buy one of these ‘periodicals’, why the hell am I paying good money for this, and setting aside a chunk of my life to absorb it? Is it to lap those stories up about how well someone is doing, or what a beautiful nose job they’ve awarded themselves with, or am I getting off on ‘look at the state of (insert whichever celebrity/z lister you want here), it can’t get much worse for them’. Are you then comparing your life to theirs ie. I don’t have much, but money/plastic surgery/footballer husband hasn’t made her happy so she’s not much worse off than me after all? Is this what we now do for a confidence boost – when did our self esteem really hit so low that we need to constantly buy this trash to make us feel better?Please tell me if I’ve got it wrong; I’d love to know the real reason why so many of these dreadful rags shift per week. And it’s not just one or two, there’s tons of them, each catering for your particular celebrity fetish – drugs, sex, booze, adultery – you name it.I just want to go and pick up my copy of the People’s Friend in peace, not have the collective bosoms and woes of Jade/Kerry/various BB ‘babes’ thrust at me. Excuse the rant, but having read Andrew’s post, plus seeing Heather Mills doing a very good job of ‘setting the record straight about the media and the ‘filthy lies they’ve written about me’ on the GMTV sofa this morning, I’m left wondering, not for the first time, WTF is going on.

  37. I revelled in not watching BB for the first time this year, having had to cover it for work purposes every other year.But once Big Brother goes, it will be the nail in the coffin for all the rest, won’t it?We now live in a TV era where 3 million viewers is considered good. rather than the tens of millions who watched programmes just a few years ago. Surely, as TV audiences fragment even further, the ‘status’ of the contestants will become ever less important and so will their place in ‘celebsville’.And to be honest, given that fewer people read The Star than watch the top-rated programmes on BBC4, I don’t think it’s too much to worry about any more!

  38. I revelled in not watching BB for the first time this year, having had to cover it for work purposes every other year.But once Big Brother goes, it will be the nail in the coffin for all the rest, won’t it?We now live in a TV era where 3 million viewers is considered good. rather than the tens of millions who watched programmes just a few years ago. Surely, as TV audiences fragment even further, the ‘status’ of the contestants will become ever less important and so will their place in ‘celebsville’.And to be honest, given that fewer people read The Star than watch the top-rated programmes on BBC4, I don’t think it’s too much to worry about any more!

  39. Sheer boredom might have something to do with people reading those magazines – if you’re not really interested in anything there’s always celebrity gossip. Wouldn’t be surprised if the cunning people behind the mags knowingly tap into an insecure/competitive streak some readers may have.The likes of BB, I’m A Celebrity, X Whatever, are all on borrowed time and I can’t really see Celebrity BB recovering either. Dave suggested some sort of hybrid was on the way and a change like that is probably their only chance. Perhaps when these shows get repetitive and pantomimey they lose a vital element; no doubt there are many different reasons why people watch BB but I often wonder if there’s something many viewers share and many BB-haters lack and maybe it’s a certain insecurity that makes you want to see how other people behave (being close in age might help). That curiosity will hardly survive if you think they’re all acting or are just weird. Could be a reason why you prefer the celeb version Andrew, to check out other celebrities. Actually, surprisingly, the celeb version was just better – more real.

  40. Sheer boredom might have something to do with people reading those magazines – if you’re not really interested in anything there’s always celebrity gossip. Wouldn’t be surprised if the cunning people behind the mags knowingly tap into an insecure/competitive streak some readers may have.The likes of BB, I’m A Celebrity, X Whatever, are all on borrowed time and I can’t really see Celebrity BB recovering either. Dave suggested some sort of hybrid was on the way and a change like that is probably their only chance. Perhaps when these shows get repetitive and pantomimey they lose a vital element; no doubt there are many different reasons why people watch BB but I often wonder if there’s something many viewers share and many BB-haters lack and maybe it’s a certain insecurity that makes you want to see how other people behave (being close in age might help). That curiosity will hardly survive if you think they’re all acting or are just weird. Could be a reason why you prefer the celeb version Andrew, to check out other celebrities. Actually, surprisingly, the celeb version was just better – more real.

  41. I believe the version of Celeb BB this year is on E4 – ‘talented’ 18 – 24’s will be in the BB house, with celebrities on the outside manipulating the ‘real’ people.Kill me now.

  42. I believe the version of Celeb BB this year is on E4 – ‘talented’ 18 – 24’s will be in the BB house, with celebrities on the outside manipulating the ‘real’ people.Kill me now.

  43. I don’t understand that last comment Clare. I promise I am not singling you out because many people share that attitude.If I don’t like something I don’t watch it or read about it. If some people do good luck to them. They are not really causing any harm are they ? Or is there something I am missing ?I realise the argument often put forward is that Reality tv exists at the expense of scripted drama. I don’t really buy that. Firstly I feel there is more value in a genuinely thrilling reality tv show like ‘Strictly Come Dancing’ than a poorly scripted drama or sitcom.Surely the way to approach it is to be discerning. So I watch good stuff like Strictly Come Dancing and The Apprentice (although it was poor this year) and avoid Hell’s Kitchen and It Takes Two. Just as I watch Heroes and do not watch Robin Hood.Secondly before reality tv came along the scedule was filled with makeover shows, before that it was stuff like Airport and Driving school. Schedulers are lazy and will just fill the gap with more cheap programming if reality tv goes.

  44. I don’t understand that last comment Clare. I promise I am not singling you out because many people share that attitude.If I don’t like something I don’t watch it or read about it. If some people do good luck to them. They are not really causing any harm are they ? Or is there something I am missing ?I realise the argument often put forward is that Reality tv exists at the expense of scripted drama. I don’t really buy that. Firstly I feel there is more value in a genuinely thrilling reality tv show like ‘Strictly Come Dancing’ than a poorly scripted drama or sitcom.Surely the way to approach it is to be discerning. So I watch good stuff like Strictly Come Dancing and The Apprentice (although it was poor this year) and avoid Hell’s Kitchen and It Takes Two. Just as I watch Heroes and do not watch Robin Hood.Secondly before reality tv came along the scedule was filled with makeover shows, before that it was stuff like Airport and Driving school. Schedulers are lazy and will just fill the gap with more cheap programming if reality tv goes.

  45. I’d just like to add that I watched and enjoyed the first six series of BB (although my interest always waned about two thirds of the way through – why they so flipping long?), er but that’s not why I’d also like to add that many BB viewers might well be just particularly good at reading people and therefore get more out of that kind of show. Even if they’d been shorter and less hyped I expect it could only ever have stayed interesting for a few series.

  46. I’d just like to add that I watched and enjoyed the first six series of BB (although my interest always waned about two thirds of the way through – why they so flipping long?), er but that’s not why I’d also like to add that many BB viewers might well be just particularly good at reading people and therefore get more out of that kind of show. Even if they’d been shorter and less hyped I expect it could only ever have stayed interesting for a few series.

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